Comments on: Linking Out, Nofollow, And Common Sense http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense Frustrated by the often-confusing and conflicting SEO advice you find on the web? The best SEO book is free - stop searching and download it today! Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:48:17 -0600 hourly 1 By: Ben http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-27528 Ben Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:05:52 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-27528 If I link out to authority sites from my home page or any other page, will that increase my site's trust in Google's eyes? One of my top competitors is doing this and is ranking well, but I am not sure if I should use this strategy. If I link out to authority sites from my home page or any other page, will that increase my site's trust in Google's eyes?

One of my top competitors is doing this and is ranking well, but I am not sure if I should use this strategy.

]]> By: Willy http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-23986 Willy Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:26:02 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-23986 Dear Dan, thank you for your great book. Could you advice me with these situations?.. 1- In my home page I have a top menu and a bottom menu with the same links. Is it ok if I use "rel=nofollow" in the bottom links? Seomoz.org applies this technique.. 2- In the top menu I have a link pointing to my home page with the anchor text "home", but in the bottom menu I have the same link pointing to the home page with a "keyword" in the anchor text. Can I place the "rel=nofollow" in the "home" link. Will Google count the bottom link "with the keyword"? or will ignore my homepage because i added "nofollow" on the link "home". I have this doubt because the "home link" appears first in the code?? 3- In your book you said: Home Page Navigation "Do not use nofollow on the link to your site map page, if you have one." Global Navigation / Interior Pages Add nofollow on all links to the site map. From the spider’s perspective, the site map is only linked from the home page. I have seem in many important sites they use nofollow in overhead pages but they do not use "nofollow" on the site map page? What is your opinion about it?? Thank you Master!! Dear Dan, thank you for your great book.

Could you advice me with these situations?..

1- In my home page I have a top menu and a bottom menu with the same links. Is it ok if I use "rel=nofollow" in the bottom links? Seomoz.org applies this technique..

2- In the top menu I have a link pointing to my home page with the anchor text "home", but in the bottom menu I have the same link pointing to the home page with a "keyword" in the anchor text. Can I place the "rel=nofollow" in the "home" link. Will Google count the bottom link "with the keyword"? or will ignore my homepage because i added "nofollow" on the link "home". I have this doubt because the "home link" appears first in the code??

3- In your book you said:
Home Page Navigation
"Do not use nofollow on the link to your site map page, if you have one."

Global Navigation / Interior Pages
Add nofollow on all links to the site map. From the spider’s perspective, the
site map is only linked from the home page.

I have seem in many important sites they use nofollow in overhead pages but they do not use "nofollow" on the site map page? What is your opinion about it??

Thank you Master!!

]]> By: Dan Thies http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-5909 Dan Thies Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:39:45 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-5909 Toby, I need to check into some kind of visual/WYSIWYG editor instead of the text input box... If you're doing a popup, you have a couple choices, you can use target="_blank" or you can use a Javascript onclick event and run a script to open the window. It shouldn't matter what order you put the rel and target attributes. I generally prefer to use alphabetical order for attributes (href=whatever rel=nofollow target=whatever) but the spiders should be able to interpret it correctly no matter what order you use. Toby, I need to check into some kind of visual/WYSIWYG editor instead of the text input box…

If you're doing a popup, you have a couple choices, you can use target="_blank" or you can use a Javascript onclick event and run a script to open the window.

It shouldn't matter what order you put the rel and target attributes. I generally prefer to use alphabetical order for attributes (href=whatever rel=nofollow target=whatever) but the spiders should be able to interpret it correctly no matter what order you use.

]]> By: toby rosenthal http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-5907 toby rosenthal Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:21:49 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-5907 <p>Dan: I tried to post and show three different coding examples, but they were converted to actual links on the site. I am confused... I took out the following from the beginning of each line of code:so you might see what I am asking here... </p> <p>We are trying to implement nofollow on our site where a click on the links in question opens a new window within our site (it is an rfq form).</p> <p>Normally, the link would be structured like this: rfq-popup.htm rel="nofollow"</p> <p>If opening in a new window, should it be structured like this: rfq-popup.htm target="_blank rel="nofollow"</p> <p>Or like that:  rfq-popup.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"</p> <p>Thanks, Toby</p> Dan: I tried to post and show three different coding examples, but they were converted to actual links on the site. I am confused… I took out the following from the beginning of each line of code:so you might see what I am asking here…

We are trying to implement nofollow on our site where a click on the links in question opens a new window within our site (it is an rfq form).

Normally, the link would be structured like this: rfq-popup.htm rel="nofollow"

If opening in a new window, should it be structured like this: rfq-popup.htm target="_blank rel="nofollow"

Or like that:  rfq-popup.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"

Thanks, Toby

]]> By: Leo http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-1290 Leo Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:27:25 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-1290 Dan, I am working on a massive site. About 7000 pages more. I am thinking of using the nofollow tag for the anchor text "home" and the image link at the top which links to the homepage. I will then place a link in the footer to the homepage that contains a highly searched keyword to our sites theme. Do you see any negative effects with implementing this strategy? Dan,

I am working on a massive site. About 7000 pages more. I am thinking of using the nofollow tag for the anchor text "home" and the image link at the top which links to the homepage. I will then place a link in the footer to the homepage that contains a highly searched keyword to our sites theme. Do you see any negative effects with implementing this strategy?

]]> By: Dan Thies http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-1023 Dan Thies Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:39:05 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-1023 Chris, those links return a 302 redirect to your site, so they won't count as links in search engines. But I assume they're sending you traffic, and when people find you that does generate some links on its own. Chris, those links return a 302 redirect to your site, so they won't count as links in search engines. But I assume they're sending you traffic, and when people find you that does generate some links on its own.

]]> By: Chris http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-1017 Chris Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:00:12 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-1017 I have just this second downloaded the seo fast start book and im wondering about the following, regarding outbound links, to my site. I have recieved many links to my sub pages from artistdirect.com, however, the link format they use means the outbound link to my site is in the format as follows: artistdirect.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+SimpleRedirect?src=/nad/music/artist/links&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Erapcentral%2Eco%2Euk&site=4400581&artist=594954&priority=-1&type=7 now i was wondering, does anyone know if search engines can even follow this link properly, or is it hard for them to count this as a vote for me, or is it a the equivilant of a nofollow link as its hard for them to read as a direct link, as i was very pleased to get get the links on this site, especially on the main artist page of the site. THANKS ALL! p.s. I have just this second downloaded the seo fast start book and im wondering about the following, regarding outbound links, to my site. I have recieved many links to my sub pages from artistdirect.com, however, the link format they use means the outbound link to my site is in the format as follows:
artistdirect.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+SimpleRedirect?src=/nad/music/artist/links&destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Erapcentral%2Eco%2Euk&site=4400581&artist=594954&priority=-1&type=7

now i was wondering, does anyone know if search engines can even follow this link properly, or is it hard for them to count this as a vote for me, or is it a the equivilant of a nofollow link as its hard for them to read as a direct link, as i was very pleased to get get the links on this site, especially on the main artist page of the site.

THANKS ALL!
p.s.

]]> By: Bert http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-935 Bert Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:38:07 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-935 Thanks for the fast answer Dan. Good to know more about how Google treats nofollow. Thanks for the fast answer Dan. Good to know more about how Google treats nofollow.

]]> By: Dan Thies http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-909 Dan Thies Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:55:47 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-909 Bert, anchor text shouldn't pass through a nofollow link, but it would still read as text on the page. As far as we know, the meaning of nofollow in technical terms is the same, whether the links are inbound, outbound, or internal. Bert, anchor text shouldn't pass through a nofollow link, but it would still read as text on the page. As far as we know, the meaning of nofollow in technical terms is the same, whether the links are inbound, outbound, or internal.

]]> By: Bert http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-904 Bert Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:33:38 +0000 http://www.seofaststart.com/portal/blog/linking-out-nofollow-and-common-sense#comment-904 Nice idea Dan, thanks! I'm testing this nofollow strategy on internal links on one of my sites right now. Do you know if Google neglects the words in the anchortext of the nofollow link for the page being linked to (in all cases)? And do you know if Google also neglects the words in the anchortext of the nofollow link on the page that's linking? And thirdly, does Google treat nofollow on internal links differently than nofollow on external links? Nice idea Dan, thanks! I'm testing this nofollow strategy on internal links on one of my sites right now.

Do you know if Google neglects the words in the anchortext of the nofollow link for the page being linked to (in all cases)?
And do you know if Google also neglects the words in the anchortext of the nofollow link on the page that's linking?

And thirdly, does Google treat nofollow on internal links differently than nofollow on external links?

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