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	<title>Comments on: I Have PageRank Now! Is My Link Bait Working?</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Knize</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4882</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Knize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No scratches on me Dan. Google my main term: treadmills&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jeff (:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;P.S. I&#039;ll be talking to you later this month. Apparently, StomerNET chose me to be a 10 hour case study.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;P.P.S. It looks like I am going to get some coaching out of you afterall. lol&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No scratches on me Dan. Google my main term: treadmills</p>

<p>Jeff (:</p>

<p>P.S. I&#039;ll be talking to you later this month. Apparently, StomerNET chose me to be a 10 hour case study.</p>

<p>P.P.S. It looks like I am going to get some coaching out of you afterall. lol</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4478</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It may not have left him, but it took a nice long walk to clear its head.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may not have left him, but it took a nice long walk to clear its head.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4477</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually after the flux, I ended up a PR4 which is certainly -1 and possibly -2. It doesn&#039;t correspond with my level of index penetration and the overall quality of my link profile.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually after the flux, I ended up a PR4 which is certainly -1 and possibly -2. It doesn&#039;t correspond with my level of index penetration and the overall quality of my link profile.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4475</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So Andy, I was going to suggest they simply passed me your page rank as I bumped up by 2 this month . . . but I guess yours never really left.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Andy, I was going to suggest they simply passed me your page rank as I bumped up by 2 this month . . . but I guess yours never really left.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4456</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;They are not selling &quot;advertising&quot; on the sites you read ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A rising tide lifts all boats.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I still need to take a look at Teaching Sells, though it is Brian and Tony&#039;s venture, not B5. Obviously membership sites can be far more lucrative than advertising on many of the authority blogs B5 run.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not selling &#034;advertising&#034; on the sites you read <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>A rising tide lifts all boats.</p>

<p>I still need to take a look at Teaching Sells, though it is Brian and Tony&#039;s venture, not B5. Obviously membership sites can be far more lucrative than advertising on many of the authority blogs B5 run.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4426</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BTW, we have a pretty good confirmation that the green-pixel &quot;penalties&quot; everyone&#039;s been all hyped up about relate to link selling:
http://www.searchenginejournal.com/matt-cutts-confirms-paid-links-google-pagerank-update/5906/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I suggested this was likely to be the sole cause, I caught all kinds of flack for it. It turns out that some of the innocent victims only recently stopped selling paid links.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Going down the list of self-identified victims, I still see a bunch of sites that either sold text links directly, promoted text link brokers as an affiliate, or sold ads to text link brokers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m glad to hear that the B5 sites aren&#039;t selling links any more. Those are some very good sites, and they shouldn&#039;t have to sell PageRank to survive.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d be shocked if the revenue from &lt;a href=&quot;http://teachingsells.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Teaching Sells&lt;/a&gt; (bought it myself, and recommend it to all!) doesn&#039;t vastly exceed anything they could earn by selling PR.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway... it&#039;s funny how the obvious explanation ends up being right again. Occam&#039;s Razor shaves another yak.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, we have a pretty good confirmation that the green-pixel &#034;penalties&#034; everyone&#039;s been all hyped up about relate to link selling:
<a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/matt-cutts-confirms-paid-links-google-pagerank-update/5906/" rel="nofollow">http://www.searchenginejournal.com/matt-cutts-confirms-paid-links-google-pagerank-update/5906/</a></p>

<p>When I suggested this was likely to be the sole cause, I caught all kinds of flack for it. It turns out that some of the innocent victims only recently stopped selling paid links.</p>

<p>Going down the list of self-identified victims, I still see a bunch of sites that either sold text links directly, promoted text link brokers as an affiliate, or sold ads to text link brokers.</p>

<p>I&#039;m glad to hear that the B5 sites aren&#039;t selling links any more. Those are some very good sites, and they shouldn&#039;t have to sell PageRank to survive.</p>

<p>I&#039;d be shocked if the revenue from <a href="http://teachingsells.com/" rel="nofollow">Teaching Sells</a> (bought it myself, and recommend it to all!) doesn&#039;t vastly exceed anything they could earn by selling PR.</p>

<p>Anyway&#8230; it&#039;s funny how the obvious explanation ends up being right again. Occam&#039;s Razor shaves another yak.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4409</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Andy, there&#039;s probably no way that the links to you about the PR penalty would have arrived in time to influence the current update...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think there&#039;s something funky going on @ Google WRT webmaster relations, period. But I&#039;d hate to speculate about exactly what, or why.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, there&#039;s probably no way that the links to you about the PR penalty would have arrived in time to influence the current update&#8230;</p>

<p>I think there&#039;s something funky going on @ Google WRT webmaster relations, period. But I&#039;d hate to speculate about exactly what, or why.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4403</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If my penalty is removed and Google end up doing another update in the next week or so, it will be interesting to see if the new links would change something... there were quite a few.. good ones :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But then I had good links before as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google seem to be working with data from around 10th or 12th October, as a few people have PageRank who switched domains around that time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did you notice that both Matt and Adam has time to respond to that blog kicked out for hidden links mentioned on Techcrunch, yet all comments on this update are through unofficial channels?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my penalty is removed and Google end up doing another update in the next week or so, it will be interesting to see if the new links would change something&#8230; there were quite a few.. good ones <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>But then I had good links before as well.</p>

<p>Google seem to be working with data from around 10th or 12th October, as a few people have PageRank who switched domains around that time.</p>

<p>Did you notice that both Matt and Adam has time to respond to that blog kicked out for hidden links mentioned on Techcrunch, yet all comments on this update are through unofficial channels?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4400</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Andy&#039;s site was nicked a few weeks ago. Doesn&#039;t look like it was permanent, and it shouldn&#039;t be - Andy does not sell PageRank.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy&#039;s site was nicked a few weeks ago. Doesn&#039;t look like it was permanent, and it shouldn&#039;t be &#8211; Andy does not sell PageRank.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael VanDeMar</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/i-have-pagerank-now-is-my-link-bait-working/comment-page-1#comment-4397</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael VanDeMar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dan, it still depends on what DC you hit:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.digpagerank.com/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fandybeard.eu&amp;dc=18&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some have been showing PR5 this whole time, I do believe.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, it still depends on what DC you hit:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.digpagerank.com/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fandybeard.eu&amp;dc=18" rel="nofollow">http://www.digpagerank.com/index.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fandybeard.eu&amp;dc=18</a></p>

<p>Some have been showing PR5 this whole time, I do believe.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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