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	<title>Comments on: Help &#8211; Google Slapped Me With A -12 Penalty!!</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-59156</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian, thanks for your kind words. Aaron&#039;s on that very short list of people I will *always* stop down to read. 

But clearly there is injustice in your case as well. I mean, I don&#039;t have to look at your site to know that it is clearly the most relevant result for whatever it is you want it to rank for.

A truly fair search engine would have sideways search results, and make everyone #1. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, thanks for your kind words. Aaron&#039;s on that very short list of people I will *always* stop down to read. </p>
<p>But clearly there is injustice in your case as well. I mean, I don&#039;t have to look at your site to know that it is clearly the most relevant result for whatever it is you want it to rank for.</p>
<p>A truly fair search engine would have sideways search results, and make everyone #1. <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Incense Burners</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-59143</link>
		<dc:creator>Incense Burners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan,

I&#039;d say that any SERPS sitting above your most excellent SEO book, Dan Thies - SEO Fast Start, is a downright travesty and I&#039;ll be writing to the powers that be as a matter of national importance (although I don&#039;t want my competitors reading your stuff ;) 

Your information is very approachable and I&#039;m glad to say that you don&#039;t talk like some techie SEO engineer (that&#039;s a compliment - although I know you are one).

Here&#039;s my experience of late...

I&#039;d agree these filters exist because my absolutely lovely high converting ecommerce website (6.5% isn&#039;t bad... you Stompernet bad boys rock), is currently sitting 134th for one of my main keywords and has been dropped for most of the others for the last two weeks.

In fact, the thing has been up and down the SERPS like a proverbial yo-yo and I&#039;ve not been aggressive - just writing a blog, posting a few directories/commenting and the like. I&#039;m being picked on, just like you. Simply because my competitors are old, have got &#039;inside contacts, or have one or two links from wikipedia (isn&#039;t that a nofollow link).

Another website I run got manually edited out completely, because a competitor &#039;ratted&#039; on me and the G men didn&#039;t like the look of it. I subsequently gave the site a fresh new look, wrote a good article that linked out to one of the biggest names in my niche, sent a begging letter through Webmaster Tools stating that I was now a reformed character and... Well, they forgave me and promptly returned my website to many page 1 positions that were righfully mine all along!

Just before I go off to lie down...

That Aaron guy does a lot of videos though doesn&#039;t he... but his newsletter totally sucks. Not like yours Dan... You&#039;re the man! (sorry :)

Adrian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>I&#039;d say that any SERPS sitting above your most excellent SEO book, Dan Thies &#8211; SEO Fast Start, is a downright travesty and I&#039;ll be writing to the powers that be as a matter of national importance (although I don&#039;t want my competitors reading your stuff <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Your information is very approachable and I&#039;m glad to say that you don&#039;t talk like some techie SEO engineer (that&#039;s a compliment &#8211; although I know you are one).</p>
<p>Here&#039;s my experience of late&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#039;d agree these filters exist because my absolutely lovely high converting ecommerce website (6.5% isn&#039;t bad&#8230; you Stompernet bad boys rock), is currently sitting 134th for one of my main keywords and has been dropped for most of the others for the last two weeks.</p>
<p>In fact, the thing has been up and down the SERPS like a proverbial yo-yo and I&#039;ve not been aggressive &#8211; just writing a blog, posting a few directories/commenting and the like. I&#039;m being picked on, just like you. Simply because my competitors are old, have got &#039;inside contacts, or have one or two links from wikipedia (isn&#039;t that a nofollow link).</p>
<p>Another website I run got manually edited out completely, because a competitor &#039;ratted&#039; on me and the G men didn&#039;t like the look of it. I subsequently gave the site a fresh new look, wrote a good article that linked out to one of the biggest names in my niche, sent a begging letter through Webmaster Tools stating that I was now a reformed character and&#8230; Well, they forgave me and promptly returned my website to many page 1 positions that were righfully mine all along!</p>
<p>Just before I go off to lie down&#8230;</p>
<p>That Aaron guy does a lot of videos though doesn&#039;t he&#8230; but his newsletter totally sucks. Not like yours Dan&#8230; You&#039;re the man! (sorry <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Adrian</p>
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		<title>By: Florida SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-53280</link>
		<dc:creator>Florida SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re The Real Deal in My &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seofaststart.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SEO Book&lt;/a&gt; ... 

:) 

E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re The Real Deal in My <a href="http://www.seofaststart.com/" rel="nofollow">SEO Book</a> &#8230; </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>E</p>
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		<title>By: Dude</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-28970</link>
		<dc:creator>Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason that he is ranking for the keyword seo book is because google is giving weight to the domain name. Just shows that having a domain name that contains your main keyword works :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason that he is ranking for the keyword seo book is because google is giving weight to the domain name. Just shows that having a domain name that contains your main keyword works <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-26569</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting....   I purchased his seo book about 18 months ago. I found it to be great back then.... But his promise of a new chapter a day or week, whatever it was, did not happen.  And yes his site is of no use to me and I can not longer trust the information as being current...  Which is why I just purchased the Stomper Net Deal and found my way to this site...  I dont have the time to research seo stuff, I have no problem paying reasonable monthly rates IF the information is current...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;.   I purchased his seo book about 18 months ago. I found it to be great back then&#8230;. But his promise of a new chapter a day or week, whatever it was, did not happen.  And yes his site is of no use to me and I can not longer trust the information as being current&#8230;  Which is why I just purchased the Stomper Net Deal and found my way to this site&#8230;  I dont have the time to research seo stuff, I have no problem paying reasonable monthly rates IF the information is current&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Power</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-23081</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here I was thinking I was the only one being punched around with a -12/-18...

I like the organic hotdogs link suggestion.. scary to think thats someone&#039;s real keyword... lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here I was thinking I was the only one being punched around with a -12/-18&#8230;</p>
<p>I like the organic hotdogs link suggestion.. scary to think thats someone&#039;s real keyword&#8230; lol</p>
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		<title>By: Haroun Kola</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-22929</link>
		<dc:creator>Haroun Kola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed an affiliate of SEO Book with .name domain right up there in the results.

How about that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed an affiliate of SEO Book with .name domain right up there in the results.</p>
<p>How about that <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Thies</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-22623</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Thies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google didn&#039;t slap me, Aaron did. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google didn&#039;t slap me, Aaron did. <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben Pate</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-22622</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Pate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google slapped Dan, and Dan responded with Pimp Slap :) Im seeing Dan on the first page on multiple dc&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google slapped Dan, and Dan responded with Pimp Slap <img src='http://www.seofaststart.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Im seeing Dan on the first page on multiple dc&#039;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beard</title>
		<link>http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/help-google-slapped-me-with-a-12-penalty/comment-page-1#comment-22597</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need to still work on that indented listing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to still work on that indented listing</p>
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