lmao

Dan, I aspire to make video as equally informative and entertaining as you.

But seriously you might be hanging around Andy Jenkins too much lately. You have to cut that out before you completely lose your mind and your hair goes all wacky.

WTF? I don't get credit for my artwork of Sister Leslie Maria?

http://blog.seorevolution.com/2008/04/11/google-requirement-pure-white-hat-seo-or-perish-in-hell/

This has set new standards in SEO comedy.

How that pass never got you in has me baffled

Awesome Video Dan. Thank you for keeping track of this stuff.

Nice to see you blogging here again, Dan, after your hiatus earlier in the year.

BTW: Stompernetvideos.com is stealing your content so as to trackback spam ppl. Might wanna nip that in the bud, before folks mistake the real stompernet for that junk.

What? Matt Cutts dreams of me at night? Now MY dreams have come true!!! swoon

Dan, I had no idea you had this comic side to you. You kill me !

Awesome content – Thanks, Dan. Much easier to explain when not limited to 140 characters, yes?

Oh, and I like how Jerry chose not to mention HIS photo (in the spam can) . . .

I laughed several times during this video.

Dan,

Great video! And yet another reminder that common sense isn't always that common =)

Jennifer ~PotPieGirl

Nice video Dan. No doubt you would like some of the 'BENDOVER' spare PageRank to flow to it! Hope it is on YouTube too…

With regard to Matt's comments, etc. Why would Google be so silly? PageRank (or BackRub, etc.) and how it distributes trust, etc. is the main stay of the whole structure they have. 'Losing' PageRank because of 'nofollow' would be plain daft. Even if it was an error when they put together the algo for when 'nofollow' came about, it would have been simple to close the loop very quickly. Even if the weight doesn't just flow to the 'dofollow' links equally, it would just stay with the parent page, wouldn't it?

I played the evil laugh several times… LMAO

I love that pic. I even tried to get it way up on dig, but only got 2 votes

http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_Requirement_Pure_White_Hat_SEO_or_Perish_in_Hell

Great video Dan!

Thanks for clearing things up, it was time someone did it.

Manny

I do have an audio recording of that session. Perhaps I can upload the allowable 1 minute of audio on my site about this issue.

Dave Dugdale

Hey Dan. Funny stuff!

Had posted previously about the silo / link sculpting we had undertaken several weeks ago. Rolled back those changes last Tuesday and on Friday saw us make jumps for several key phrases on our home page in googles SERPs. Though I'm sure it's just a coincidence

Great video, Dan. Unfortunately I can't se it above in IE but works fine in Chome – but had to go directly to the videofile at: http://dant-linkliberation.s3.amazonaws.com/cuttsvideo.mp4

Just wanted to let you know – maybe others have the same problem

Thanks Dan for posting about it and for the video! )

It is the sarcastic proof that Google is deliberately searching a final ultimate theory which will bind General PageRank Relativity theory with lately revealed Quantum PageRank theory. I suggest visualizing links as tiny one dimension oscillating strings. Someone had to make a scientific conclusion about Pagerank at last. That's unfortunately me

So I read Matt's latest explanation and I just have more questions. Are you going to do an update after his latest comments.

Thanks

What a magnificent evil laugh! Most impressive.

Two girls? One cup?

"I Love The Smell Of SEO In The Mornings…"

Great Video Dan and see you in Link Liberation training… nice being on an early bird list…:)

You made my day Dan. I love your disclaimer at the end of each video. What was that about staying in school? Aren't we all still in school in a way – you gotta be to get this stuff.

Thanks for mentioning my Null Hypothesis, Dan. After Matt's further clarifications I'm feeling even more comfortable about sticking with that one.

This whole subject is now being further discussed at the Cre8asite Forums in a topic titled, Bubble And Burst, The tragically funny rel=nofollow fiasco: your readers may find that of interest.

Black-Hatters selling the secrets of how to upload videos? That would be funny if it weren't true.

Ah, what the heck, it's still funny even though it is true.

Funny, the vast majority of my blogs are "nofollow" free and I've been running them that way from the start. Spam is done away with by Akismet and me. Spam comments, even if not caught by Akismet are not posted. Simple enough. Lol, blogs have so damn many links I've never tried to do much PR sculpting.

Non cms managed sites are a different story. In general privacy, contact, etc are no followed and everything else is followed. Simple enough to remove those links from everywhere but the front page of the site. Problem solved.

While goggle may send the most traffic, most people forget that google traffic is not always the most productive traffic.

Lol, now I have to wait for the new SEO2009.

BTW, the video is not working.

Nah, got the latest flash. When I put the video url in the address bar I have no problem watching it but when trying to watch from this page it doesn't play. Your videos have always played before today. NBD, just thought you'd want to know.

Oh, the video was pretty funny, too.

Same propblem I had with the video, Master Mind – and same solution

I tried with IE 7 and Chrome – both fail. IE just show a black box where the videoplayer should be. Chrome show the videoplayer but the video won't start. Don't have Firefox on this machine …

MSIE 6 and XP Pro SP 3 and all of my software is updated to latest levels. Just a blank black box the size of the video.

Almost has to be something on the page as I can see the video if I paste the url in the address bar.

@Dan you read my blog? I'm flattered! Thanks also for the branding compliments .

Hmm methinks a little more thought could have gone into this presentation.

Firstly page rank evaporation – there has always been page rank evaporation via robots.txt blocked areas, password protected pages and dead end pages with no outbound links.

A little more page rank evaporation is not going to hurst the algorithm or make any major changes in rankings.

Secondly 'Iteration of the page rank calculation until it tends towards a steady figure' – not sure how much processor power this would take but I don't think the world has that many processors yet. – Think about it more as an ongoing iteration.

Thirdly – Given that the original premise for nofollow was to stop the passing of page rank to untrusted pages (such as blog comment links or forum signature links), and there should be no way that an internal link is untrusted, why Google would ever have taken any notice of a nofollow on an internal link really beggars belief.

1. In answer to your first point – the way Matt Cutts said that the page rank would be divided following the new model – (i.e still dividing the page rank through all the links and then only passing to the followed links) is equivalent in terms of a page rank dead end.

2. I agree and it was entertaining. (There are always isues with some people reading and understanding and some reading and not understanding, but still passing on the information as definitive)

3. Agree on the user generated content areas but this was always the case before nofollow too – and the reason for implementing nofollow was not about those user generated content sites.

p.s. Thanks for the welcome – always nice to read a different viewpoint.

Not often I get to laugh out loud while getting educated! Nice job, Dan, as usual, and I'm sorry I didn't seek you out to say "hi" in Seattle. Ya know, I really think there's something to this BENDOVER… I've gotta run and get a FlipCam now

Where is the SEO Fast Start 2009? I have been waiting for it all weekend —> Thanks Dan!

Dan, If Matt has confirmed Leslie's theory that PageRank of no follow links doesn't disappear but simply goes back to the index, then why would you want to link any internal pages with it? I saw an article on Stompernet specifically saying that you should do exactly that, use it on all non-money pages. I did this back in June 09 and haven't seen any changes, even though some have claimed to. I have a feeling it isn't help and possibly could be hurting as I'm only losing PR as it is going to back to Google's index?

Curtis

Where's the beef? I was entertained but got much more on your posts than this vid. Brings me back to the days of going natural from stompernet.

I've been following the whole no follow debate.

I have a serious quandry… I have a site with a lot of affiliate links localised on a group of pages which it is important for bots to spider.

I read that javascript links are also letting link juice flow…so how do I prevent all these affiliate links leaching page rank from my site?

HELP!

Dan, I know this is a little off topic, but what are your thoughts? Linking to your homepage using various keywords in all of your articles. So each article on your site, links back to the homepage using one or two different keywords some place in the body text?

Curtis, just redirect them through a robots.txt blocked sub-directory

Sorry, it was for Will – not Curtis

Does anyone have any idea why this site is still well ranked and has all of their pages indexed? Myweddingfavors.com has on all of their pages! I thought that meta tag tells the search engines NOT to index that page & follow the links, which is on all pages of the site. I'm confused…

Sorry, it too out the code: meta name = "ROBOTS" content = "NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW"

Curtis, check the Google cache on pages – thats not the tag they got last time they visited the pages

So either they they are not serving this tag to Google (which I doubt is the case) or they just implemented the tag recently (which is much more likely)

They have had it there that I know of since early June (may have been there for months). Google's cache of the homepage is July 1 and it says this meta name="ROBOTS" content="NOODP,INDEX". That doesn't make sense, they have something different, but google then interprets it as "NOODP,INDEX"???

No, Google don't interpret (or change) codes like that

Lol, I've followed this thread with lots of interest but I think I can explain it all. This may particularly interest Muratos. As everyone knows Quantum Theory says there is an alternate universe for every possibility that exists. Therefore we all have all the number one listings and make millions in an alternate universe. Rather than worrying about google we should be trying to find a way to the alternate univerese where we have number ones for everything.

I find this next bit interesting but confusing. I open three windows to the net everyday and google is the homepage. Today two of the three came up with the usual PR 10 in the toolbar but one came up with a PR 4. So I refreshed, multiple times and it stayed a PR 4. Refreshed the other 2 and they stayed PR 10.

Why does Google not surprise me? It seems every time Matt Cutts speaks or breathes we (seo geeks, service providers, followers, students etc.) have "deer caught in the headlight" moment. I have been following this "hoop-la" for sometime and am still amazed at how much people still don't get.

Bottom line is, we are all looking to work within standards of the system. Some use white hat some use black hat and some just do. (Natural organic is still our bread & butter but that's another topic) Whether you are an SEO professional or just someone who wants to learn it's refreshing to see experts like you sharing the love.

I have to add Dan I am still trying to masticate the last "hoop-la" At the You & A conference with Matt Cutts, Cutts admitted that Google profiles SEO’s! Of course, this was a few weeks ago, so you can read about it all over the net. Or maybe you were there. Regardless, what this boils down to is don't sweat the small stuff, as far as I am concerned Google is not the only Search Engine I depend on…

In conclusion until I hear more definitive "standards" on what "intent" or how the hell PR works and who cares etc. I can add this video to my growing list of Google + Bully = Boogle. Thanks for your great insight.

This is a great video – I love the humor angle you took with this.

I did have a great take-away from this and the Matt Cutts response: Structure your site and your content for your audience. It's okay to put some best practices in place but over-engineering your site will ultimately be a waste of your time.

> It's okay to put some best practices in place but over-engineering your site will ultimately be a waste of your time.

You should listen less to Matt and more to people like Ralph. Keep in mind, Matts job is to uptimize Google's business – NOT yours!

http://www.searchcowboys.com/guestposts/745

Are you guys talking about the noindex, nofollow tag on My Wedding Favors, or all of the nofollow attributes on every link? (When the page is viewed by a regular user – aka, not Googlebot).

I understand why he shows a noindex, nofollow to everyone but Googlebot (protect against hijacking), but why the nofollow attributes? Is it so that if anyone scrapes the site, their scraped version will be all nofollows?

Been wondering about this for months now, and this is the closest I've gotten to any kind of reason why.

Aha, I never took the time to actually look. Just saw half the page turn red and thought they must've nofollowed everything. Didn't know that SearchStatus/SEO for Firefox would do that when the nofollow meta tag is used.

Thanks for pointing that out. Been sitting in the back of my mind for a few months, now . . .

Such an appropriate name!

So, if I understand the video and Matt's post then the fact that I have used my URL in this comment is actually pointless as Google only looks down about a couple of hundred links on any page.

'Course if I don't understand anything, a very real possibility, there might be some value even with a nofollow link.

At the very least some video on YouTube gains some PR love, hope it's one of mine but that would be too much to hope for.

Hang on, maybe that's the answer, make the URL to the YouTube video just so Google knows which one should get all that extra link juice. Yes, that's it. Now how do I spam that…

I missed the phone call on Thurs evening.. to tell the truth I fell asleep! Was it recorded, and if so, where can I listened to it? Madeline

Now this is one of the funniest geek videos ever xD

Just watched this one again – you're a funny man Dan! Do you know if this nofollow mess is still the same now?

If no follow links don't pass page rank or anchor text, how come they appear in Majestic and Noble Samurai when you check SEO Rank?

Or does this just apply to Google's search results?